Friends, it appears that President Trump has decided to role the dice! He's authorized massive, sustained strikes on Iran, with the explicit goal of overthrowing the theocratic regime there. Will it work? Your guess is as good as mine. It's now up the people of Iran to step up to the plate. I hope they will, and I hope some of their patriotic police and military leaders will help them do it. The best case scenario might be a caretaker government led by the son of the former Shah, but honestly almost any new faces in the Iranian government are bound to be an improvement on what we've got. Of course, that's what a lot of Iranians said back in '79 too, and look how that turned out! There's no question that we're taking a huge risk here, but the potential upside is vast, so I'm glad Trump pulled the trigger. You can't promise help and then offer none...
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ReplyDeleteWill these strikes be the equivalent (many times over of course), of hitting Bruno Tattaglia at 4 in the morning? I think at least one of our warships should be The U.S.S. Corleone.
Bad jokes aside, had Carter done this in 1979, Trump would not have to spend all this money now.
Once again, let's not get that Shah gang back in Iran. They were bad enough with that SAVAK S*t and whatnot.
No matter what, that special brand of Islam will still be hanging around over Iran, which in itself is a problem, as can be seen by the current regime.
At best they can rename the place Persia, which is what it was called for thousands of years until 1935.
Dr. Waddy and Ray et al from Jack: Well, this has been some day! I've been on the road all day and have been listening to Fox radio.
ReplyDeleteI want to avoid irresponsible hyperbole but it looks to me like we MAY have made a promising start toward a monumental redemption of the Middle East to a region graced by toleration and cooperation between nations with the resources and the Israeli know how , to prosper.
We destroyed the Nazis because we knew they were a demonstrated unspeakably savage regime with the potential to forcefully engulf much of the world. We destroyed 20th century Imperial Japan because they bade to turn the Pacific into their atavistically cruelly ruled fief and perhaps someday threaten America itself. Today, I think, we commenced using our superlative military power, together with that of noble Israel, to do thoroughly justified evisceration of the tyrannical and frantically aggressive Iranian regime and the deliverance of its people from neo medieval authoritarian shackles. As is demonstrably true of a 20th century matured American republic, we are again "the flag that sets you free"while, yes, advancing our national interests . Today's creditable Germany and Japan stand as proof of the historically unprecedented benevolence of America toward its conquered foes.
Islam, an established world religion affording vital spiritual guidance , secular structure and ultimate solace to hundreds of millions , has been much compromised by a rogue faction which has misused it to promote ferocious intolerance toward any people or nation it deems heretic. That faction took Iran over in 1979 and has usurped its national structure and power to direct fanatically bigoted hate toward any one or thing which excites its doctrinally commanded murderous antipathy. It might remind historians of Spanish King Philip II 's deployment of the unspeakably savage Duke of Parma to the rebellious Netherlands in the 16th century and that Duke's only nearly avoided landing in England after the defeat of Philip's Armada. Elizabeth I was right: "in its holds it carries the Inquisition". Similarly, the present Iranian regime would, as it has , further spread its hellish spleen. Its detestable Jew hatred, which for at least one thing among the many for which Naziism has been irresponsibly accused , actually bears plausible comparison with the infernal Nazis, is ample proof of the Iranian regime's perfidy. Well, we may well deliver the world from that profound evil.
Dr. Waddy and Ray et al: Now of course we must expect the summary ignition of the far left " aid and comfort to the enemy" engine in our free country. There are enough doddering veterans of the Vietnam betrayal around to have a last go at reprising their life's transcendent "victory." And of course the American academy has since then unto our day, nurtured many thousands of worker ants to do their dirty street work. I'll suffer MSNBC over the next few days to hear the imprecations to disloyalty and disdain for our armed forces that network will reflexively broadcast. But unlike the '60s, they will probably be met with intense disdain, as they richly deserve.
ReplyDeleteDr. Waddy and Ray et Al: Reportedly some elements of the "U.N." have expressed disapproval of the use of force by both the U.S. and Israel AND, in maybe futile final despair, the Iranian regime's spreadshot retaliation against , well, everyone within reach. Goes to show what the regime would have , if it could have , done with nuclear weapons, yes?
ReplyDeleteThe well intended League of Nations and the U.N. have just about affirmed in their futility the reality that world ;peace and justice is guaranteed only by FORCE , by the threat of it and by usage of it, by humane and civilized nations like the U.S. and Israel, against the persistently evil willed element still resident in imperfect humanity.
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ReplyDeletePresident Trump has done many good things for our country, at home and abroad, and his decision to deal with Iran in this way is one of the best actions he has ever taken, in my opinion. God Bless President Trump.
Go, Persia, go!
ReplyDeleteRay, I don't think there's much danger that Iran will go back to being an absolute (or nearly absolute) monarchy. I wouldn't bet on it becoming a monarchy at all, in fact, but if it does I'm pretty sure that the people will be in the driver's seat. As you say, though, fundamentalist Islam won't evaporate overnight, or ever, in all likelihood. Iran may never be the compliant ally that it was in the 70s, but, heck, I'd settle for a "Persia" that doesn't make a constant murderous nuisance of itself.
Agreed, Jack: Germany and Japan are shining examples of what raw American power can achieve, but those nations were OCCUPIED, and thus comprehensively restructured, whereas Iran will be, at best, in a position to restructure itself. Jeffersonian democracy probably won't ensue, but maybe something more like a "normal" Middle Eastern country? My fondest wish is that the Iranians will get busy spending their oil wealth on Chinese smartphones, which would be a big improvement over roadside bombs!
Jack, the Left will be of two minds, to say the least, on the subject of our strikes on Iran! The pro-Israel Democrats will (quietly) approve, while the pro-Palestinian, far-leftist crowd will howl with outrage that the peace-loving mullahs (ha!) have been endangered by Trumpian aggression. Well, ultimately the proof is in the pudding. If the new-and-improved Iran is better than the old, Trump will win the argument, full stop, whether the Dems like it or not.
Boy, Ray, that is a full-throated endorsement of Trump and his "Persia" policy! That's good to hear. I'm not an interventionist by nature or inclination, but I understand why this risk had to be taken, and I praise DJT and his national security team for taking it!
Ray, I read up on the Board of Peace, and I must say it has more potential than I thought. Basically, it end-runs the peacekeeping bureaucracy and machinery of the UN, which isn't a bad idea at all, and puts Trump himself in charge of the "stabilization of Gaza"...which leads in turn to a massive U.S. commitment of financial resources. Other than that, it's an effort to get as many Muslim countries as possible to contribute money and troops to the stabilization effort, which again is smart, mainly because Muslim peacekeepers have a chance of winning over the locals. Could it work? It could! Much depends on the attitude of the BofP administration, and the peacekeepers, towards Hamas...
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DeleteThanks for the explanation of the Board of Peace. I thought it might be a UN "replacement" effort, which is fine with me. Of course the UN is not going to disappear any time soon, but the Board of Peace will be a lot more efficient and effective, I hope.
Dr. Waddy from Jack: The far left got right down to it. As always they were hot to trot. MSNBC's coverage has been negative each of the random times I've endured them in the last day. Schumer was a busy little bee fomenting reflexive resistance to this, to him by definition as always condemned,Trump effort . Congressional far left / dems would delight in forcing their "Commander in Chief" meddling on our superlative military. They would be content to send a new diaspora of desperate boat people into the Persian Gulf, ala the Vietnam atrocity.
ReplyDeleteThe late great sadly unlauded David Horowitz documented the "American" far left's making of common cause with the radical, America hating faction of Islam . "Why, the enemy of my enemy is my buddy!" We can expect "demonstrationitive" proof of that in carefully selected and managed in American locations forthwith. " Hands off Iran , hands on American forces" will be their paean to the surviving 7th century educated mullahs in fond hopes of brightening their day by cheering them on.
The late great David Horowitz documented the American far left' s
Dr. Waddy from Jack: Against the distinct possibility that President Trump will in this action be proven a good war President , the far/left Dems might better corner the market on Maalox; they are going to need it I think, as his standing as a fine President grows apace. It may well make the next three years go for them so "glacially "slow in passing with no deliverance certain even after that "long dark night of the soul". But then they do think glaciers move real fast these days and they do have their doubts about the existence of the soul, the poor dears.
ReplyDeleteDr. Waddy from Jack: I was thinking today that we might as well just call the far left/Dems the "Obstructionist Party" ; they are certainly not democratic. But then I heard a GOOD one on Fox today; a lCongress member was scalding what she termed "the Hamas wing of the Dem party" . Oh why not, they fling the synonymous term Nazi around with abandon to characterize us. Certainly their immediate and reflexively negative reactions to the President's well conceived effort would warm the cockles of the Hamasian heart.No doubt those things are well aware of the decisive support "silly" "American" radicals lent to the N. Vietnamese plastic bag suffocators and boat people "enablers".
ReplyDeleteToday a touchy feely far left/Dem spokeshuman expressed how offended she was that our President did not notify Congress that an assault was imminent. Maybe, just maybe, because he could not trust the Hamas wing of the Dems (even just the nominal leaders of the far left/Dems)
not to spill to MSNBC or the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps , ya think?
I could just see it: "How dare President Roosevelt not have given us full disclosure of an imminent assault at Normandy? " Well, maybe because the treason laws still had purchase back then.
". . . then what to my wondering eyes did appear. . . " today on Fox but coverage of a demonstration in NYC (!) actually supporting our war effort against the atavistic Iranian inquisition (which none the less slavers over very modern nuclear weapons). They even countenanced the open display of American and Israeli flags! They will no doubt be summarily "put in their place" by the forces of "righteousness"in commie captured Gotham. But gee, most Americans agree with them. I mean gosh, when a country which hates EVERYONE seeks to acquire the very "power of the universe" (President Truman) , the miniscule but ornery atom , then common sense says , well, stop them from doing so! And we ARE , finally, thanx to our level headed and gutsy President.
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DeleteThose "plastic bag suffocators" were not N. Vietnamese! They were the Khmer Rouge under Pol Pot. Actually it was N. Vietnam who invaded Cambodia to stop Pol Pot's genocide. The boat people were Vietnamese.
Dr. Waddy from Jack : It may be that our President, who is held to be a middle brow , dilletante intruder by the fashionable intellectual "smart set" ,has paid attention to what you wisely pointed out above: occupation and nation building , which worked well in the conquered Axis, did not work well in the Arab Middle East and it might not work even in Arab disdaining Persia . Better to destroy the Iranian regime and let their long suffering flock redeem the country on its own. We'll see but I think its a plan.
ReplyDeleteDr. Waddy from Jack: Horowitz's documentation of the bizarre regard for radical Islamists shown by the 'American" far left is to be found in his book Unholy Alliance. Were any of our radicals ever to reside under such as the Iranian regime they would be directly and summarily apprised of what murderous bigotry REALLY is.
ReplyDeleteDr. Waddy from Jack: Our Middle East combat veteran Secretary of War and our ChairMAN of the Joint Chiefs held an encouraging and unapologetic press conference today. Their no nonsense resolve to accomplish not a whit less than our President's set goal of destroying official Iranian hate suffused jingoism was refreshing. We are in this to win and we pledge that our armed forces will not be encumbered with wrongheaded and stultifying restrictions which place them in increased danger and threaten their mission; that was their unmistakeable tone. And they declared, with clear conviction , to our armed forces , "we have your backs" and in doing so threw down the gauntlet to those who in the past and no doubt now , castigated them and would gladly do it again.
ReplyDeleteOur President has vowed to "avenge" our casualties. That is language our neomedieval opponents understand. And that it riles the far left/Dem touchy feely virtue signalers in Congress , the MSM and on the podia of their "spontaneous grassroots demonstrations" , is all that very much the better!
I think Vietnam vets would have celebrated such support when they were engaged AND when they returned "home".
Dr. Waddy from Jack: Fox reports that the far left/Dems disingenuous blocking of funding to Dep't of Homeland Security, ostensibly in protest of alleged unnecessarily forceful tactics by ICE., could be resolved this week. Well!
ReplyDeleteFIRST and FOREMOST: that obstruction should have been summarily renounced by Schumer the moment we went to war with Iran. The maxim "partisanship ends at the water's edge " is , along with essential patriotism, spurned by "American" radicalism's cuckooed and obsequious "major party" vehicle and its pusillanimous commissars like the Senate's thankfully minority leader.
The Coast Guard is one of our armed forces, though it is part of DHS. YOU DON"T DEFUND ANY OF OUR ARMED FORCES IN TIME OF WAR! That the Coasties should miss a payday, with all the financial upset that can bring, and WHO KNOWS WHAT OTHER SUPPORT, is beneath contempt for any who enable it! Oh maybe , just maybe , Schumer will deign to relent this week but he will no doubt demand in turn some mitigation of the deportation campaign against illegals.
But "that's the rub ", isn't it. The far left/dem's impassioned objection to ICE's methods is a despicable front; oh yes some of their cadre at the barricades are people of good will but the "Central Committee" is of but one mind: they are loath to give up the stupendous political advantage they gained by enabling some 20 million illegals , loyal to them for ALL, to invade! ICE's methods are of no importance to the grimly determined far left leadership; it is ICE's continuing success and our President's unshakeable resolve which has them approaching a "critical mass" of desperation. Of course, as always, their battle cry is "by any means necessary", with its clearly implied ancillary "for any cause we please". Their advance guard , many of them no doubt seasoned veterans of recent viciously Jew hating campus riots, are already in the field giving aid and comfort to the neomedieval Iranian commanding savages who have yet survived our onslaught and that of the so very, very much wronged Israelis .
Ray, "more efficient" than the UN is a low bar, but I hope so!
ReplyDeleteJack, the reflexive opposition on the Left to this noble effort is most depressing to witness, but I suppose shouldn't be in the least bit surprising. Maybe what's important here is how many Democrats are keeping their mouths shut, thereby avoiding antagonizing Israel/American Jews, and hedging their bets just in case the new-and-improved Iran is, well, undeniably improved!
Jack, I view the complaints about Trump's "illegal" and "unconstitutional" aggression as complete B.S., unless those complaints come from genuine right-wing libertarians and constitutionalists. If they come from Democrats, well, the rank hypocrisy is odious, even for them.
Jack, I hope that's true about DHS funding, although I would be surprised if the Iran War were the reason for the Dems' decision to cave. I think they always knew that kneecapping DHS wasn't a long term solution to anything. They will wave the white flag, not when patriotism demands it, but when no one is watching, which I guess is now...